Curse

Fleur De Lyss · Aug 02, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Okay, so ofcourse I bought a ton of ectos while the Perma sins were farming. And then ANet/GW nerfed that and brought the Ectos up to 4.5k And then dropped them to 3.9k Again, and now they're at like, 3.6k. So, whats keeping the ectos down ? terras ?

Tyla · Aug 02, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

There is a new build in use, but this one only uses degeneration from Burning Speed, with Frigid Armour as a counter against the burning.

Luminarus · Aug 02, 2008, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Yeah, although ectos have been steady at that price since the change (3.5-4k) so i think ectos have their new stability point and they wont nerf shadow from again.

I suppose the only reason they would have to change shadow form is to satisfy those people complaining that the only SF build that works now is the UW one, due to the nerf.

_Nihilist_ · Aug 02, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19

PermaSF Sins aren't the only builds that can farm Ectos...

I farm them solo on my Warrior, I dual farm them on my Necro (can solo farm them if I'm REALLY careful), and Terras can farm them as well...

It's not BUILDS that are keeping the price of Ecto down, it's the fact that the game has been around for 3 years... When Obsidian Armor really was Elite Armor, Ectos went for 13k. Now, a very sizable chunk of the GW player base has at least 1 toon with Obby Armor, I know people who have multiple chars with Obby Armor.

The economy in GW is dying down, because people already have what they need or want... you can't have an economy which is based on supply and demand when the supply is insanely high due to long-term farming...

the_jos · Aug 02, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by Fleur De Lyss

.... Again, and now they're at like, 3.6k. So, whats keeping the ectos down ? terras ?

You are only looking at the supply side while the price is influenced by both supply and demand.
Less and less players are interested in ecto as 'shadow currency' because the value is unstable. Why would I trade for 100K + 10e when those 10e can be worth half their value tomorrow?
And with the perma craze everyone could have farmed obsi armor for themselfs. So less demand there.
Ecto's are an investment and only worth what people are willing to pay for it.

FengShuiDove · Aug 02, 2008, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by Nainoa

Players solo farming instances that were meant for eight man groups is an obvious imbalance.

Your /rant really wasn't that great and kind of misses the point. Solo farming, while not directly encouraged, has been allowed in various forms in the game for ages. If the particular builds were too imbalanced, they were nerfed, but probably still function. Good ole' W/Rt solo and Mo/X 55s still function, though perhaps not with the proficiency or speed of newer builds. ANet has said it has no problem with solo farming.

As for the topic, Shadow Form should be reverted to its original state. Looking at the way things turned out they, I think ANet wanted to dual-kill Raptors and other Perma farms so they gave themselves an excuse to do so.

A/E Planes farmer would die if they reverted it and now the A/Me that could still run it won't be able to do Planes even as close to as effectively with Hex Breaker.

I Will Heal You Ally · Aug 02, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52

yay let's nerf all the ele skills so that sins can't farm... NOT! My ele won't suffer

The forth fly · Aug 02, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01

no point in nerfing SF B4 the nerf i got 1 stack of ectos in 3 days,the buff lasted 2 months so hardcore farmers will have loads of stacks they will never go back up in price

combatchuck · Aug 03, 2008, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

you can't have an economy which is based on supply and demand when the supply is insanely high due to long-term farming...

You can't keep a stagnant economy alive for very long.

Aug 02, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38	#1
Fleur De Lyss Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: None Profession: Me/E	Ecto Degenerating Okay, so ofcourse I bought a ton of ectos while the Perma sins were farming. And then ANet/GW nerfed that and brought the Ectos up to 4.5k And then dropped them to 3.9k Again, and now they're at like, 3.6k. So, whats keeping the ectos down ? terras ?

Aug 02, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40	#2
Tyla Emo Goth Italics Join Date: Sep 2006	There is a new build in use, but this one only uses degeneration from Burning Speed, with Frigid Armour as a counter against the burning.

Aug 02, 2008, 04:41 AM // 04:41	#3
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Yeah, although ectos have been steady at that price since the change (3.5-4k) so i think ectos have their new stability point and they wont nerf shadow from again. I suppose the only reason they would have to change shadow form is to satisfy those people complaining that the only SF build that works now is the UW one, due to the nerf.

Aug 02, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19	#4
_Nihilist_ Will Bull's Strike for $! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Isle of the Dead	PermaSF Sins aren't the only builds that can farm Ectos... I farm them solo on my Warrior, I dual farm them on my Necro (can solo farm them if I'm REALLY careful), and Terras can farm them as well... It's not BUILDS that are keeping the price of Ecto down, it's the fact that the game has been around for 3 years... When Obsidian Armor really was Elite Armor, Ectos went for 13k. Now, a very sizable chunk of the GW player base has at least 1 toon with Obby Armor, I know people who have multiple chars with Obby Armor. The economy in GW is dying down, because people already have what they need or want... you can't have an economy which is based on supply and demand when the supply is insanely high due to long-term farming...

Aug 02, 2008, 08:52 AM // 08:52	#7
I Will Heal You Ally Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In my HoM Guild: Canthan Refugees [TOGO] Profession: E/Rt	yay let's nerf all the ele skills so that sins can't farm... NOT! My ele won't suffer

Aug 02, 2008, 11:01 AM // 11:01	#8
The forth fly Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2008 Location: england Profession: Mo/	no point in nerfing SF B4 the nerf i got 1 stack of ectos in 3 days,the buff lasted 2 months so hardcore farmers will have loads of stacks they will never go back up in price